Sapper school reddit They say they don't have $, yet our battalion can sure always find time/funds to send kids to Sapper/Ranger/Airborne and Air Assault schools. But they are going to prefer to give ETPs to, you know, the whole host of IN bubbas from 82nd who are looking to chase another school. We never filled our enlisted pre ranger Similarly, you can absolutely get schools and unique TDYs at West Point that are difficult to get otherwise. Armor may send you to arc. Take the chance while you can. I was wodnering if anyone could give me a little information on it, and the requirements. It’s realistic that you could do Sapper school and CDQC, for example. Riley will send you to Sapper only if you take a Sapper PLT though from what my ENG buddies tell me. Seriously you can ever be too good at either. Also Sapper is way more than just being in shape. Sleep with your legs elevated every night and stretch when you can. It will mostly consist of PT in the mornings with a few sapper events here and there. That, and engineer stuff. Sapper Stakes changes a bit class-by-class but expect to complete a 6-12 mile ruck with 5-10 stations that test material relevant to basic Soldiering, Army Engineering, or Sapper tasks. So when should you go? The answer is that you should go as soon as possible. You learn more things, can attend the same schools and more like sniper school etc. i could be wrong but If you're going to Campbell you'll get air assault. Know what gets me the second time? The stupid easy swim test at PRC. Depending on what unit type you may go to Stryker leader course or something like that. You can work for USACE, or at the Engineer development laboratories (ERDL), you can do tons of different schools and get nice Additional Skill Identifiers (ASIs). I would definitely try going for Sapper school, or E-EOCA, might be able to snag Airborne if you want to do a little extra hooah. Nope!! You’re supposed to know this before hand. And knots. Second, and more importantly, how many infantrymen do you see with a Sapper tab? When you get to your centralized promotion boards, they are going to be flipping through a bunch of guys with Ranger tabs, and a Sapper tab will make you stand out and get your packet noticed. You cannot get Sapper school written into an initial entry contract, however, one of the best units to get schools in is regiment, so by going there you would be increasing your odds of getting schools like that. In Batt. Depends if you're doing construction or sapper shit. (sorry if I listed that wrong, I think I did it right). United States Army on Reddit There's a difference between Sapper Leader Course and a Sapper Company. It’s just not as credible, either with your US counterparts or definitely not with our allies and partners. You can’t bullshit knots, it’s like math homework. The tabs are just an identifier for the quality of the the soldier wearing it. It will develop your leadership abilities and regardless of what people say it will set you ahead of your peers as far as career progression goes. There’s a sapper/ranger train-up and memo from the battalion commander if you complete the train up and pass the final STTs, land nav, and SPFT. I want to get the most out of my time with no regrets from not pushing myself. Some of the senior cadets that are in charge of the freshman have already been to some Army schools. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. I have NOT been to sapper school but as a 12B a lot of NCO's I know have. What I can say is the curriculum has shifted a decent amount since I went last March. I would like to cut weight also which I know will come naturally with training for a school like this but I want to ensure success. Eh basic sniper school is ok. My program sent a cadet to sapper school in the past and this happened to him. Time it right and you'll get all 4 before you hit E6, but that's just barely. Most people won't get a school and just go to their unit. I know that there's quite a few swimming events in Sapper School, and at least a CWST (which I failed last time I took it) at Ranger School. To my understanding, the school has changed a bit over the last two years. Negative. USACAPOC is like the only component in the entire reserves that regularly maintains airborne qualified and active jump units, and even they're not sending people to ranger or sapper regularly. Help each other out. And many States won't send soldiers without a reserved seat or a guaranteed acceptance. This is a sure proof way to go to airborne as both ranger school and airborne school fall under the same training brigade. During my preparation, I hear conflicting advice on how to prepare efficiently. Wtf I’m not even an engineer and I’m offended for them. Sapper school is good, no doubt. It’s not easy and some people pass and still don’t get the tab for some reason. A standard UT will go to boot, A School, then ECS which is a combat school in Mississippi. Get familiar with demo calculations from a SL who know his stuff. There are way to many assignments to list to choose from in the 12A. Although the marines have their own sapper training for their combat engineers; if they switch over to the Army they need to attend and graduate from the Sapper School in FLW, MO in order to be authorized to wear the Sapper tab. Those two schools ypu desire come by quite often and you should be able to get a slot for blc and efmb. There wasn’t a minimum rank required to go but your experience may vary when it comes to who can and cannot go Why not Sapper school? It’s just as good, right? Nope. Then in the evening there is a 2 hour study hall block so you can go back and study more. Gotta make the most of what you got, especially if that sapper tab is important to you. EDIT: You need to be SPC(P) to attend. Hardest part in my opinion was the sling load inspections, especially the A-22 because they give you 2 minutes to find 3 out of 4 deficiencies and A-22 is the most time consuming, got like 20 people in one day. The majority of the stuff in that post is still accurate. Your chances of getting any of those schools outside of a best soldier competition or something without being in USACAPOC are slim to none. Traditionally, Officers tend to breeze through the classroom portion and then fail patrolling while NCOs do the opposite. If anyone has any insight or advice I would appreciate it. I am prior infantry and not a lot of guys aspired to get a sapper tab. The Sapper Leader Course is a demanding 28 day leadership development course for combat engineers that reinforces critical skills and teaches advanced techniques needed across the Army. Currently in round 2 of Europe, not a fan but it is what it is ya know Most Army towns are kind of dog shit. Plus these rotations are not that great. I’ve already read through the Sapper Leaders Course Pamphlet, Army Flashcards website with its resources to prepare for school, and this post about the school. Yeah I'm jealous of all the double tabbed 12As. After talking with a lot of mentors I found out that a lot of people who have their Ranger/Sapper tabs had to try multiple times. Hope this helps. 12B's and 12Ns are the MOSes that fill those roles. I am Active Duty at EBOLC right now and want to walk on to sapper school after graduation, it's like 10 days after. You're increasing the risk of injury to the extreme trying to train north of that range that you might not even make it to the start of the school or go in injured. Basically, long story short, yeahhhh, 12B call themselves sappers even if they didn’t go through the Sapper Leader Course. )? I'm trying to get a chance to go sometime next year but we'll see (National Guard). The sapper trail is hilly as fuck btw it's not flat. You aren't taught how to wear a tan beret. Anyway, called the schools front desk and they said as long as I’m there before the timer starts for the 12 miler then I’m good. Once upon a time, yes, some 11 series were attending Sapper school. I have soldiers planning on going to these schools and I am trying to make sure they are best prepared for them. You will have to be tested on knots and get a 70% and pass the sapper 12-miler in under 2:50 IOT receive a BC memo. In fact, I heard that it is a good learning experience. I know that Sapper School has been co-ed since 1999 and I wonder what can I do in order to earn that tab like any other females before me. There is zero chance of you walking on to Sapper as a non 12 series MOS between PCS. It depends on the school your attending and your state policies. SAPPER is also a good course and people (especially in Infantry land where that sapper tab is rare) do care about it. Sapper school/ Sapper land nav advice As the title says guys just looking for advice for me and my soldier going to sapper this February. as long as you study and take good notes, you should be fine. Sapper, doing infantry like tasks with mobility/counter mobility thrown in. BLUF To wear the Sapper Tab you must graduate from the U. Go check out day zero at ranger school and see all the dudes failing the events they knew they had to pass to get into school. Obviously places like sapper school and Ranger school are calibrated and tested to make sure that they are exactly 12 miles because you can fail those schools if you can't finish the ruck in three hours but that's not like an army wide standard it's just a requirement of the school Yea that’s going to be pretty rough, probably not possible. Almost no one gets a hard ATRRS slot to the school some people in the guard got one way in advance by their unit but that was super rare. If you pass one school, you should be able to pass the other. Because then they don't get reimbursed for the flights and Reservist 12A here, I had a cadet ask me about Sapper school thru the Reserves, and i told him best bet was thru the trainup at EN BOLC. Get my ticket, get to school, park the car, get my gear out and haul ass to formation. There is a 0% chance you go to sapper school as an infantryman, let alone reserve infantry. Reply 100% Sapper School. It is open to all mos but with a focus on 12 series and specifically 12A and 12B. You'll learn that shit in Bolc. main things to know before going in are STTs and knots, as you will be tested on them right at the beginning. Seems like a fun time overall, but I really want to get into Sapper and get that training with explosives and everything else they do. Who earns a Sapper tab at Sapper school? I have heard multiple answers from 70% to 50% of the EBOLC EBOLC is located in lovely Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri, and the course is 19 weeks long. The most recent data pulled from SLC (2012) states that 125 females have attended since 1990 but only 46 have graduated (63. If engineer units don’t submit enough applications, typically they offer more slots to Engineer BOLC classes and fill it that way. In order to go to RASP you must be airborne, therefore an option 40 guarantees you airborne by default. I know Marines aren’t going to Ranger School left and right, but I don’t see why we got rid of it if it prepares Marines for a hard Army school that teaches useable skills, and saves the Corps money by sorting through “Marine Ranger” candidates before they ever get Decide to give Ranger School another go. Ive been consistently good at land navigation but I have a healthy fear of it. As an 11B I understand that this will be a challenge because explosives are not my normal work load. “Officers take the slots” because officers know the importance for their careers and volunteer and train up for school. I've heard that the 12 mile ruck is a bitch, I'm assuming you're familiar with Leonard wood, the hills are relentless, if you fail it you get a second chance at the end. Good luck, it’s Dipshit lousy Cadet going to Sapper School. You could also go to special commands where you are support for spec war guys and they could send you to some special schools like jump school. However, an SF candidate - particularly an 18C student - will receive all of the training necessary above and beyond the Sapper Course. They earn this through competing and wining best warrior competition. It’s not just Engineer Ranger School. Demo calcs, knots, etc. other than that, the school curriculum will teach you all you need to know. Go to unit and go straight to ranger school. Sapper -- Some of that course material is no joke. Pathfinder School is a gentlemen’s school, as such you will not do any physical events, however, an APFT is required to be done by your unit before you go to school. United States Army on Reddit Hey so I went and graduated last July. only a few actually It's easy--go in on 18X contract, get 18C and pass Q course. I've also heard the lake sucked but more because of it being frigid. Combat tracking and SERE are GREAT courses…and no one cares and you won’t be able to ever excercise the skills you learn there. It always depends on the situation, 14 years in NG as a 12B and I’ve never known anyone that went to sniper school. Looking for study guides for Sapper school. That is a whole process. Looking up NCOES schools on google will give you a pretty good idea. The FBI showed up and threatened to shut down the school, just because he had a sapper handbook in a storage shed. Just join 18X and choose to become 18C SF Engineer Sergeant while at SFAS. You'll need to be good with equations to know how much C4 to use to take out a bridge, where to put it, etc-- and a ton of other stuff. These are some tangible thoughts and strategies for many sapper events that brought my squad and I considerable success moving through. Generally, guys who have the Sapper Tab obtained it prior to the Q Course in their previous MOS. Plus you’ll learn a foreign language and go to freefall school. If you wanted to go to sapper school you shoulda been an engineer, and even then, if you wanted to be a sapper, you should have gone to the army Hey, Just started BB, currently at week 2. Guess he pissed someone off in S1 because they pulled his records and found out he never even attended the school. Wore the tab, had a front license plate, and stuff like that. My battalion got sent up to West Point in the summer of '05 to run the freshman cadet's summer training. 2% attrition rate). I know one (1) non combat arms Soldier that went to Sapper school, and he only went because he was a personal friend of the commandant at the time. 266K subscribers in the army community. Just got to my unit and my B. First, it's primarily supposed to be a leadership school like Ranger. Frankly I think it's bullshit that they can come to ranger school but only 12-series and 18-series can go to Sapper school. Also, it would be wise to memorize patrol briefs. Why then is Ranger School or Sapper School a discriminator for senior leaders? If you go to a BEB then it may come in up conversation. I. It's mostly due to peer pressure but the more I think about it, the more I want to pursue it for myself. Seriously, especially if it’s a straight leg unit. Sapper is prioritizing NCOs atm anyway. Has the course changed much (standards etc. Enlisted soldiers should qualify in their MOS with priority going to 21B, 1371(USMC), 11B, 18C and 19D, specialist promotable and above, and officers in the rank of Captain and below. Ranger school was great and all - sapper is a similar vein from what I've heard - but what you'll learn as a PL/AS3/XO is way more valuable. now say you pass ranger school. To go deeper, SAPPER School is just a "leadership" school like the infamous RANGER School. Their fail out rate is the same as Sapper, with only around 30% earning the pathfinder Excerpt from the Sapper Leader Course Pamphlet: “ELIGIBILITY The Sapper Leader Course is open to all active and reserve units. Not just Airborne school, but French airborne school. Posted by u/throwaway738456 - 6 votes and 4 comments I suggest hitting up r/army and getting good quality advice from 12 series Officers and NCOs who have graduated the course. I guess I'm really looking for advice or some sort of train-up so that way I'm well conditioned and can secure that sapper tab. . You have to do it and you have to show your work. Those numbers have definitely increased since 2012 so I wouldn’t use it as a determining factor in trying for the school’s SLC slot(s). It’s just not. Otherwise maybe MAC units might send their officers. At this point I wish I had tried again before getting settled into where I'm at. Go check out pre ranger, very rarely a full class. I would like to go to Sapper school. With budget cuts the way they are, my unit won't send anybody off post to skill schools unless you catch them on a good day, so that leaves Sapper as the only on post school available here. Took me 3 years to get to my first school. Finally, Sapper School is a great leadership school. These kids (mostly 1st contract troops) get here and get smacked with that reality, and they lose a sense of purpose. You cover everything in the 18C course that they cover in Sapper School. Construction, get ready to have tons of equipment and maintenance. I went through with consistently single-digit temperatures, so my skill set is that of a winter sapper and a summer ranger. I’ve been doing runs, rowing, elliptical, and swimming for my endurance. For a run of years (mid-2010s), they closed off the school to non-Engineers, and even capped the EN officers at 1LT for a bit. Find a high speed NCO at the school to study with. As a graduate of both Ranger School and an elite graduate program, they both have uses, but the skills I learned in Ranger School had absolutely no bearing above the company level. At 4:00 in the morning. Interesting, back when I was in we could go to Sapper school or Ranger school starting at PFC. I have a comprehensive list on my work computer but not accessible without a CAC. Fun fact, 12Ns are authorized to attend Sapper Leaders Course! This leads to exchanges like this between the platoon leader and the rest of the platoon: PL: "Does anyone want to go to Sapper School? Our battalion has slots!" Platoon: "Hah!" Its a very physical and mentally challenging school. S. More recently, the Engineer regiment has made a push to qualify as many Engineers as possible (because we have billets coded for Sapper graduates). If you go to Sapper Leader Course, you learn small unit tactics and demolition which if you graduate you earn the Sapper tab. 280K subscribers in the army community. Special schools for a UT could be a MUSE tech or UTC diver. I 100% have work to do and fully appreciate the difficulty of the Sapper Leader Course. wants me to go to Sapper School in October (Yay!), and then Ranger school a month or two after that (double yay!)but I'm worried about my swimming. I’m really excited and nervous for it, and I don’t want to fuck it up. You aren't taught how to kick in doors. I’m just bull shitting about sapper school, It is a good leadership school as well. EDIT: The RTB stats paper published said 0 graduated in FY16. In sniper school the BIGGEST misconception is they’re going to teach you to shoot. Maybe the people you knew graduated in CY16? It’s called the Sapper Leader Course, not “Sapper school”. There's also the stereotype of comparing ranger and sapper that ranger 'only teaches you how to be tired and hungry for weeks' ie, the stereotype is that ranger is more 'how much suck can you endure' and while sapper may not be as physically-suckfest, the harder academics make up for it. United States Army on Reddit Had a CSM fake being a sapper. I like 19D for the land nav training, the weapons training, the vehicles seem cool. My SE cluster is pushups, air squats, dips, rows, SL step ups and sit-up/V-ups. Unless you're route clearance. I don’t know what everybody else’s experience is but sapper and ranger school prequal just got pushed down to everyone in my unit and we’re a FA battery. I just checked my 2 star commands air assault school slots. Reply reply More replies More replies More replies More replies I just completed a 12 mile ruck at Fort Leonard Wood. " It's a "deprivation" sort of school, so he will be physically and mentally challenged and not given a whole lot of comforts or rest - contact with the outside world included. 110 votes, 57 comments. Both are physically and mentally taxing. MTOE Schools: these are schools that your unit has assigned to a specific paragraph and line number. As a Combat Engineer, Sapper school is my #1 goal, but I've been looking at some stuff about Air Assault school, one of my Sgts went to it and told me some stuff about it. I took a brief two year break from Combat Engineer land and came back and I'm seeing pictures of privates graduating Sapper School. standard duty hours you are at school. Fa bolc may send you to jfo right after. The course now has a heavier emphasis on engineer tasks and engagement area development during GS phase, and almost all of those tasks reappear in patrols. I was doing a train up for a May BOLC date then it suddenly got changed to Monday. Also you can attend Ranger, Sapper, Air Assault, etc. ), you have to go through the competitive MIAD tryouts. we had a handful of guys who weren't 12A or 12B in my class who passed. That reminded me of something my CO told me: that even though i didnt get a slot at BOLC this time, the next opportunity would be thru CCC. I studied up for Ranger school and it helped majorly in peers when I didn't have to spend time learning and spent time helping other guys. Posted by u/Low-speed-3692 - 1 vote and 1 comment The school struggles to get funding as is for just 28 days. before going to RTAC, 1st sausage was double-tabbed Ranger/Sapper Hey, I couldn't reply to the post regarding walking on to sapper school. Ranger school is a LEADERSHIP school. Sapper School is the much rarer opportunity, project go can happen again, sapper school will very likely not. I’m just trying to get into the pre-sapper program so that I can keep training in a motivated environment and learn from the classes. I'm a 12-series and I've been thinking a lot lately about Sapper School. For instance, BSTB Engineer Company; 2nd Platoon; 3rd Squad Leader might have Sapper, EOCA, Air assault, R2C2-Sapper, and Field Sanitation. But most won't because it makes them liable. We also were trained on demo. Then ETPs became a thing again, so non-Engineers and CPTs+ can get slots. I’m in a walk-on/will train status for class 002-22. Yeah, you can do sapper school even if you’re female. He elected to leave the course early rather than starting his semester weeks late. They've been turning away anybody who isn't 12, 11, or 18 series. Apr 19, 2013 · In order to attend Sapper School (or any other high-speed military school like CDQC (combat diver), Pathfinder, SFAS, RSLC, etc. Leonardwood Missouri. You are becoming an expert in your field to make your leadership and guidance more credible. I wouldn't worry about patrolling until you get to FOB Faliniko, the school has its own way that it wants to see things and I would wait to learn it the sapper way so you don't develop any bad habits. Or check it out in the app stores Sapper School requires you to be an E-5, E-4 with a waiver. We started with 140 and 77 graduated. I went to EOD school when I first joined. We have a Sapper train up program at our unit so those who are interested can participate. I’d just talk to your schools NCO and see if they can keep an eye out for open dates. You will get the mix of 12B and 11B that I think you’re wanting. Which means they do Sapper missions like mobility, survivability, and counter mobility. Dude got lobbed from the unit asap… he was pretty chill though. " If you branch infantry, you will be sent to Airborne, then ranger school after IBOLC. After CST I attended Sapper school and was a first time go, hence the tab on my left shoulder. Sapper school is essentially an abbreviated Ranger school with a greater emphasis on testing knowledge and skill on Ranger/Sapper tasks than teaching them. Tabs > all other training. I think they get recently changed the 6 mile run to a 6 mile ruck though but that was after I went. Knots and patrol briefs are exactly the same at both schools and will be essential to passing - especially at sapper with the point system and smaller class size. Senior Army Reserve Captain (12A) here. We have 4 Soldiers in our unit going to Sapper School this year. As soon as I get to formation my name is called from the roster to see if I made it. Sapper school gloves Does anyone know if CIF would issue me rappelling gloves or which gloves I can buy that are acceptable to bring to sapper school, the packing list calls for white but the closest ones I can find are tan. Anything will help. You do give up a lot of personal freedom, so if you go I hope you’ve already gotten your fill of partying. Source: trained with Sapper Co. Then there's bridging but there are very few MRBCs. C. I earned a sapper tab and I view Ranger school as slightly more prestigious. Ebolc has a pre sapper course as well. Other branches can go to Sapper, but it’s definitely engineer focused. It's been a while since I went (graduated in October of 2015) but you're sort of right when you think "basic training. You realistically need to be at a 2:40 or faster on a challenging 12-mile course to make the Sapper course. Mostly Air Assault, or Airborne school, but some of the truly high-speed cadets had already been to Sapper school. It takes longer in the guard/reserves to build up this experience anyway, and 8-12 months on active/ADOS will teach you a ton. HIGHLY recommend that you take the IMT PL role purely for the opportunity to go to Sapper school AND Ranger. I do not know that any GB has a poor opinion of the course. Sapper Stakes: This is also not a critical event, but it is the last event before you're officially an Army Engineer. Small Unit Tactics is basically Ranger School light. Cont. Nov 20, 2019 · I was looking through the USMA website and I couldn’t find any further information on combat dive school or sapper school for cadets choosing to take them as a military individual advanced development school, so I have a few questions: How competitive are the schools to get selected to go? Apr 28, 2023 · I am a cadet and received a Sapper School slot for this summer. Come back from ranger school, rest up for a couple of weeks, go to sapper school. Realistically you shouldn't be doing more than 35-45 lbs regardless what you're training for. I didn't do sapper school just basic training with a bunch of 12b. Segnalazione scammer, su reddit si chiama old-pen-813 e su telegram il suo Nick è Cast0505, mi ha chiesto di scambiare delle cose e appena ho mandate le mie mi ha bloccato e cancellato la chat, non scambiate con lui Nov 1, 2021 · "Hi, I'm CDT X. Such as a night where you come out, learn knots, poncho raft, etc. I want to be an infantry officer. I was in 07-11, OIF 12C. Advanced and the SF courses are waaaaay more practical. So start hanging around the bars near Leonard Wood. The rest of our deployment consisted of recon, convoy security, and pulling security for other MOS’s. (btw anybody or any mos can go to sapper school and get tabbed) both are physically demanding but id rather not deal with explosives 12b now a days from research ive done is they mostly do IED sweeps and build bases in like afgahn or etc. Ranger school however, has no bearing on weather or not you're qualified to be a ranger. There's a whole slew of medical related schools to attend as a 68W. Work up to 35 lbs over the course of 8-12 weeks if you haven't started. I've tried to search the task numbers in CATS but nothing is coming upprobably because I'm retarded. I know that I was MTOEd a Sapper platoon but we fell on TPE that was both Sapper and RCP so we ran both missions (and were trained to do so). Most of the jr enlisted in my unit, are planning on just getting out. It’s not a lot but we also have a handful of Soldiers go to air assault school. Or check it out in the app stores But sapper school is more towards the combat engineer skill sets Its a leadership school so any MOS can go, however, you would need a waiver for anything outside of 12 series: According to the official Sapper Leader Course Web site, the course is open to enlisted Soldiers in the rank of specialist and above, cadets, and officers in the rank of captain and below. Sapper school is a 28 day leadership course based at Ft. Of course there is also Sapper and Sapper companies, and R2C2, and EOCA (route clearance training). the biggest killers are med drops and patrolling fails. As for schools that depends on your MOS, unit and so on. Find the biggest hill near you and run/ruck it many times. If you’re a flat lander, crank the incline up on a treadmill. The process as a reservist of getting the airborne physical, getting unit funding, getting the sapper school waiver to not be mandatorily recycled due to funding limitations, and receiving a sapper school commander memo to attend training as a walk on has been extremely tedious. Boom I graduated last week. Especially if you’re a 12b. What the fuck happened and where was this a few years ago lmao. You're taught and graded on how to lead a patrol, but they don't even require you to lead the way. Ranger school doesn't actually qualify you to do anything. I swim twice a week now and intend on going back. Your BC may have a stupid rule that you need a ranger tab to go to Sapper, or you may be a PL or XO and not be allowed to go then head to Pacific Rim the month before you thought you'd go back. But it’s not Ranger school. I heard that 1st Mar Div Schools used to have a Pre-Ranger Course. don’t think there is an “age limit” but two of my dual tabbed friends have both told me that Sapper is significantly more difficult than Ranger in terms of mental stress. Prior to graduating everyone who isn’t airborne qualified is afforded the opportunity to volunteer to attend airborne school. View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit. The worst thing about FORSCOM intel being relegated to BEBs is the fact that we don’t have the funds to send intel soldiers to follow-on schools but we absolutely have the funds to send another company’s PL to Sapper school for the second or third time. But you most likely have to wait until next fiscal year (starts in October) to attend such courses. Long story short, I didn't make it, but what you said about it is pretty spot on. E. With that being said keep in mind that YMMV on whether your unit actually sends people to schools. it’s a school on how to effectively lead and train sappers. Perception matters. Are you still at FLW? If so, jump into 554 or 5ths pre-Sapper train up as they are some of the best around. The original curriculum for Sapper school was developed by combat engineer ranger graduates. This course is also designed to build esprit de corps by training Soldiers in troop leading procedures, demolitions (conventional and expedient), and 296K subscribers in the army community. There are very few cadets on this subreddit who are tabbed much less have even gone to the course. while there are only select branches in which I would benefit from a sapper tab, it probably wouldn't hurt to have. As a result, attendance has been much more restricted. Field problems are awesome though. We didn’t build one bridge other than to train Iraqis the whole yr. It is a TDY assignment and the only people who PCS there are those stationed there, those without follow-on orders, or those who have orders for Sapper school immediately following EBOLC. There are airborne and air assault slots but those are rare. I have a Soldier who took 9 months. signed LTC X, ENG COMMANDING. Some schools will guarantee walk on if they have the capacity for additional soldiers. /r/BOLC is a place to discuss: -Finance or travel-related BOLC questions: BAH, BAS, PCS, partial/full DITY move, TDY, HOR and taxes -Meet people in your upcoming BOLC classes -Swap BOLC class dates -Find Roommates within your BOLC duty station -Make sense of your orders and the reporting process -Give or get advice about your particular BOLC, BOLC duty station or first duty station About halfway through BOLC, they will brief everyone on a sapper school train-up. It was very exciting time. This guide will try and cover most of Sapper school; it also includes some of my personal feelings about the course. Ranger/Sapper school rucksack I feel like this is a dumb question but I can’t find any answers on it by looking it up. Common to both is explosives. A Sapper Company has a Sapper Mission like a designation. Rangers and SF regularly fail out of Sapper school, it is fucking strenuous physically-- but it's also a LOT to know. I know several officers with Sapper and ranger tabs, both engineer and infantry officers. I have no idea how the cadre do their criteria. 35lb dry weight, wearing just ACU's. On the same route Sapper school uses, with infamous 6 and 8 mile hill. Army Sapper School. We gave him the choice of leaving the course to return to school on time or delaying school to finish the course. Maybe you'll get lucky. SAPPER just happens to be based around the Combat Engineer MOS where RANGER is based on small team Infantry movements and operations. 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